Not Just Comics

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forever

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what's up everybody welcome back to

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another episode of greetings from the

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garden state i'm mike ham we are here in

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montclair new jersey at eastside mags

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with jeff beck jeff welcome to the show

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hey how's it going everybody oh it's

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going it's going so this is this could

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be the coolest place we've been to full

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disclosure yesterday we recorded with a

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farm animal sanctuary that was pretty

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cool because we got to pet a lot of cows

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and pigs and goats and stuff i'm kind of

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upset that i know so all those cool

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things yeah well you got some other cool

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things in here so let's kind of let's

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talk about it like what do you guys do

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what's cool as a goat though they have

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square pupils i know and only bottom

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teeth did you know that

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they only have bottoms only bottom teeth

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i swear yeah yeah fun fact well i'm

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gonna i'm gonna tie us into goats i'm

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gonna i'm gonna you only have bottom

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teeth i'm gonna do it uh you're gonna

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you're gonna you're gonna look at me and

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go holy he really did i can curse

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her right yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a new

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jersey podcast because that's pretty

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much what we do a lot that's okay so

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does my four-year-old but anyway um yeah

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i'm gonna tie this back to ghost okay

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and you're gonna be amazed yeah i'm

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ready

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like a magician yeah taking one i'm

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gonna do it right now yeah right now so

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this new location that we're in uh that

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we moved into this location uh september

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26th i feel like i already know where

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you're gonna go with this but keep going

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prior to this it will over the summer it

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was an ice cream place but for a year a

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couple of years

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up until coat the coat murphy governor

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murphy and also covered shut down in new

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jersey

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this was a

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coffee shop called

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uh crazy mocha yeah whose uh mascot

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was a goat right i think i was here and

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it was crazy mocha oh yeah yeah i think

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so and i still have the giant goat sign

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with a cup of coffee that uh one day

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very soon i'm going to uh

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see if i can get a big sticker made of

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our logo yeah and we're going to put it

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on the mug over the crazy mocha logo

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love that and uh i don't know it might

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be like the eastside medics krampus yeah

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uh or something but yeah champion the

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goat yeah but because it freaks me out

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yeah they have square pupils this is

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nice i know square people's and only

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bottom teeth so but you weren't here

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originally you were kind of around the

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corner right yeah we were about 30 sec

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uh 30 to one minute 30 second to one

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minute walk away yeah uh kind of

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diagonally across the intersection on a

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side street not far off the beaten path

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but just far enough that i think we

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earned a pretty cool a pretty big cool

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factor yeah for a while yeah uh but

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we're over there for well seven and a

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half years and then uh

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two months here so my favorite question

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when people walk in is oh how long have

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you been here and i go two months and

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they go

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oh that's

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supposed to do it's not that long and i

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go well yeah but seven and a half years

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on south fullerton yeah and then people

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go oh

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yeah yeah so you're the same comic book

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story like yeah that's right

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thanks thanks for thanks for keeping up

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with us yeah awesome yeah thanks for

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your patronus so you said comic book

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store in there and if people that are

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watching on youtube can't figure it out

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this is a

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comic book primary primarily a comic

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book store correct comic books graphic

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novels collectibles statues action

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figures

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original artwork from local artists

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dvds uh use dvds because i'm trying to

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empty out parts of my house

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and why not use my shop as a vehicle for

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that exactly um and my friend's house

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because he gave me a whole bunch of like

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korean movies and kung fu dvds and stuff

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like that so we added those sure um but

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yeah and uh

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yeah pop culture fun yeah

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yeah it's all good no i love that so um

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so seven years in the original location

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two months here so seven years and two

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months so why why open up a comic book

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store did you just like love them as

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like growing up crime of fashion yeah um

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yeah so i i collected comic books

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uh for pretty much like 25 years i guess

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uh most of my entire

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most of my entire life um although i'm

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40 now so it's not that much but yeah

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i'd say i started about when i was 12

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13. uh

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and

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before this i was working in the city in

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hotels and conference centers i got into

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the av world uh i was a salesperson for

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a couple different companies that uh

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put together uh like fortune 500 company

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meetings in various conference centers

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and hotels and i liked what i did but i

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didn't like the people i worked for um

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my immediate boss who's one of my best

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friends to this day was amazing he had a

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very

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huge open door policy

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i got to sit in on

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p l meetings and all kinds of other

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managerial stuff that i normally

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wouldn't have been privy to yeah um but

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he just he wanted everybody to know how

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the operation was run there was no

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secrets there was nothing crazy going on

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um he was just very upfront about

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everything so i learned a lot from him

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about

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how to manage expenses and understand

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cash flow and stuff like that so i kind

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of got like a for lack of i guess lack

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of a better term like a school of hard

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knocks yeah type right uh on running a

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business running a business yeah so um

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but i had studied to get my mba and all

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this stuff like i wanted to go to go

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back to school and get a degree and

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business administration and all this

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stuff and uh what is it the lsats i

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think you have to take to get your mba

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gmats i know because i have an mba no

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not to you know brag but

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well uh and now i'm doing a podcast so

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you can tell

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i'm pretty sure i if i remember i think

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i tanked my gmats okay twice uh and i

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was like this i'm not getting

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figure something else out yeah and i was

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like and then a buddy of mine who uh one

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of my best friends who lives in tel aviv

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uh who i've known since fourth grade who

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at the same time was also trying to get

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his mba and did well on his gmats and

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then went and got his mba

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um

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was like you know dude you don't really

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need an an mba doesn't make you a

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business owner of course you can still

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do it as long as you understand what you

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need to understand right i just thought

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about it

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okay and so i started doing research and

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i did a lot of reading on the on the web

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the different like state government

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sites and and stuff like that just to

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try to like all right i kind of

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understand this aspect like i understand

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cash flow i understand labor i

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understand this so you know uh it just

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but working with nick who was my

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supervisor in hotels and conference

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centers uh

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just really gave me the confidence i

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needed to to feel like i could get this

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off the ground coupled with working for

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companies that

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well

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working for corporations that

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uh as we all know clearly don't give a

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about their employees uh was just

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fuel on the fire and and just in

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incensed me to to just keep working at

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this and and

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learn what i need to learn and do what i

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need to do right um

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culminating in the last company that he

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and i worked we he and i worked at two

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different companies together

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one i left voluntarily because i was

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just like i'm done with this industry

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i've had it uh and i left but then he

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kind of like called me off the bench for

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this new company that was a startup it

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was owned by two at the time 30 year old

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ceos yes they had two ceos which they

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don't anymore because that doesn't work

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very rarely yeah

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but they were best friends who graduated

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from villanova together and used to

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sell textbooks or cigarettes or

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something in their dorm rooms i don't

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know but

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they were they had a college business

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together and they were like oh we work

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well together we should take this to the

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next level and then ended up opening

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this business where

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um i won't say the name of the company

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just for fear of uh contribution right

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yeah we don't need that not that i'm

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scared of them but i just don't care

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enough to give them any shout outs

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but they would lease

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space in corporate buildings turn it

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into meeting space which would provide

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and the idea is pretty pretty cool yeah

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uh it's it's an amenity for the the

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tenants that are already in the building

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they have meeting space and technology

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at their fingertips that they can just

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do whatever they need to and never

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really have to leave the said building

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yeah and they would pull in business

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from outside okay um so i was the

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salesperson for the technology component

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so if you needed a projector microphones

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webcastings video conferencing stuff

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like that uh any kind of recording i was

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the guy who was your first point of

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contact regarding the technology and i

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put together the proposal and you know

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it was always thousands of dollars but

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um but that was my job and that was what

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i did and then my boss kind of oversaw

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that and built out new locations because

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these guys were just buying up property

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in manhattan yeah like crazy and it

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started to branch off into dc and other

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places and they're still around they

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still seem to be doing well if you know

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in the 30 seconds that i spend on

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linkedin uh now it is uh because i kind

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of don't care anymore yeah uh it's not a

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thing for me right so linkedin doesn't

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seem like the spot necessarily for a

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place like this yeah

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yeah not that it's not not that it

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couldn't be i mean i'm friends with some

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industry people

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comic book edition people yeah but like

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yeah i just kind of go in because i like

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to silence the the notifications that i

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get

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uh and every once in a while i get some

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like

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young

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smoking hot millennial who's like

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who's like hey i work for this young

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upstart advertising agency who can get

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you and i'm just like

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okay is this a solicitation are you like

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really the person in in your profile

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picture because i feel like i'm getting

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catfished right yeah you know and

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usually i'm getting catfished so

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uh and actually one girl got real kind

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of like she kind of threw a couple jabs

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back and she was like she was like why

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would you think i was catfishing you and

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then i was like okay and i like proposed

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a date and time to

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have a phone call sure and she never got

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back to me and i went catfish right yeah

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yeah that's what happened you told me i

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wasn't being catfished you catfished me

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by telling me i'm not being catfished i

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was like i'm just drowning in catfish

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yeah i think i like soul food so

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um

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yeah so yeah linkedin sucks but um

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and then we started a comic book company

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but then we then i started it so uh and

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i also won't say the name of the company

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because i don't know if this will come

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back to buy me either but i spent about

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two years behind the scenes of my my old

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job

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um

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working on this i just had a really bad

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day at work uh clients were yelling at

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me nothing was going right you know just

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everybody has those days it's just like

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you feel like the whole world is just

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caving in and so i got home uh i

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ingested some herbal supplements okay

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to expand my mind sure and uh then went

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to the burger king i was living in

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jersey city with my then girlfriend at

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the time uh who's now my wife and uh

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herbal supplements went to burger king

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and was sitting there

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chowing down on like four burgers and a

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big milkshake as one does and i kind of

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caught my reflection and i went

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oh like what am i doing yeah this isn't

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this isn't healthy

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mentally or emotionally this isn't good

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for me like what am i doing with my life

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right uh i'm miserable i don't like my

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job

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i gotta figure this out yeah so i sat

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down and i gave a really hard thought uh

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thanks to the herbals and uh i decided i

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love comic books and i love music and

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like if i'm gonna do

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one thing for the rest of my if i could

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do one thing for the rest of my life it

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would revolve around at least one of

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those two things both yeah um

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other than playing music in the store i

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haven't terribly figured out a way uh to

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incorporate the two yeah uh we used to

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do live music okay in the shop yeah

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that's like bands out yeah yeah yeah

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have little like punk shows and stuff

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which is cool yeah but uh i just figured

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i didn't want to work nights for the

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rest of my life because eventually i

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would like to i wanted to have kids

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which i do uh and be able to go to like

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little league or ballet or whatever that

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brings uh so working nights wouldn't

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allow me to do any of those things and

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working in the city i was basically

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responsible for about two million

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dollars in sales

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minimum on an annual basis so i said

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well if i can do two million dollars in

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sales working for this corporation in

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manhattan

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surely i could sell 300 to 500 000 worth

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of product on my own yeah in a small

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space in new jersey right and so one

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thing led to another and i started

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putting a business plan together and i'm

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googling things and i'm looking at the

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sba and that uh the sp s

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dcc whatever the

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smaller like more local level of the

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small business administration yeah which

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is the federal one right right right

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whatever the smaller version is yeah uh

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i bet with this dude sylvester in jersey

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city who worked for that or worked for

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the sba uh who gave me a lot of really

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good insight on uh you know how to put a

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business plan together and how to

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understand and project sales because you

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know i've had people ask me like how do

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i put a business plan together and it's

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like definitely one of the hardest

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things is trying to figure out like how

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much you're going to sell because you

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haven't sold anything right starting at

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zero no data to go on yeah so there's

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nothing to fall back on yeah and the

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other thing that's really kind of niche

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and

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uh also shitty about

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comic book stories is we're all

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independently owned businesses so

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there's no public records we don't have

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to submit our sales data to anybody

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right it's all just mine or theirs so

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there's literally like unless you just

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can get in good with people and ask them

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and get very candid specific answers

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yeah there's no resource there's no way

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to look it up and go oh how did comic

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book sales do because there's sites that

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do that yeah but those are comic book

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sales to people like me

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not my sales to folks like you sure who

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are on the other side of the retail

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account yeah exactly so

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i can see how many copies of amazing

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spider-man sold to comic book stores but

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not from comic book stores to people

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right yeah and for all i know that

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number is vastly different and comic

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book stores are sitting on copies of

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amazing spider-man because maybe it's

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something i just want to read it yeah so

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yeah um so it was just it was very

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difficult but i managed to pull together

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uh i had the good part about working in

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the city was that they paid me a bot

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load of money like just a buttload

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of money and incentive and kept

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incentivizing me to keep me on

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and uh i just i'm not a man of expensive

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taste yeah uh i don't drive fancy cars i

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don't eat fancy food i love pizza and

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sitting on the couch and watching tv and

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you know i'm good so this buttload of

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money i had just what do i do with it

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and i just kept squirreling it away so i

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had this huge nest egg that i had

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accumulated over like

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10 years of doing this yeah and uh

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i think the only thing i spent real

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money on was the engagement ring for my

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girlfriend nice smart yeah

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happy wife happy life type of thing

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yeah and uh

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yeah eventually

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uh the 30 year old ceos

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uh

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had approached my boss about turning

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turning the rooms uh into like a giant

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iphone and my boss was like that's

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that's not a thing and they didn't like

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hearing no from people so they fired him

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and i was stunned because that was

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really the only thing that was keeping

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me there yes that was your guy that was

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my dude yeah and so i went all right

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well we're going to finish up this

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business this business plan and we're

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going to start making moves to try to

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get funding yeah and i submitted uh my

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business plan

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uh for funding to i think it was

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at least six or seven different

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financial institutions whether they're

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banks or co-ops or whatever and got shot

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down by everybody because i was renting

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an apartment i owned a car that was like

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eight years old so there was like no

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value to it right and i had no

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collateral yeah but i just had this

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massive nest egg that i had put together

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that was over six figures and quite

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substantial but

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nobody would take that at like so

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i sat down and my dad who has

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historically not always been on my side

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with things but is also a small business

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owner but he's a structural engineer so

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very different field a little bit yeah

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but the one thing he does understand is

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numbers because those don't change and

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he looked at my business plan and he

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thought it made a lot of sense and he

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just kind of looked at me and he was

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just like well

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just use your money and i was like

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but i thought we we didn't want to play

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with house money yeah yeah and he would

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and

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play with our own right

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with the house money yeah and he was

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like well yeah but how many times are

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you going to get rejected by a bank or a

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co-op before you decide you're just

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going to use the money

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just do it yeah and i went

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all right right so i wrote four

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resignation letters that night the next

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morning i went in at 7 30 a.m the cfo

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saw me in the office at 7 30 in the

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morning and went

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you're never in here this early and i

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just went

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dropped my resignation letters and that

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was it

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bought a bought a laptop using the

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company discount uh before i walked out

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the door so i got like a

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2500 laptop for like 800 bucks nice

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sweet smart still have it to this day

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you still use it yeah right

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lenovo carbon x1

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very happy

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um

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yeah and that was it yeah and i got a

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lot of dirty looks on my way out people

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thought that's all they were like oh

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where are you going what you you're you

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quit where you going i said i'm open to

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comic book store liar like what

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are you gonna go work for a competitor

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you're like yeah i'm gonna go do

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whatever the you want man i'm gonna

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go out there and sling ass on the street

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like see if anybody wants to pay for it

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this luscious body right yes

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there's a there's a marker for

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everything everybody's gotta mark it

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yeah but yeah but i was honest with

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people i said no i'm gonna open a comic

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book store yeah we're like you man

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like why i thought we were cool you

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gotta lie to me

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yeah

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no one's lying yeah whatever here we are

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yeah and here we are and seven and a

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half years later i really didn't think

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this thing was going to stand on its own

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but you know man we're here it's a

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long time and we're doing great yeah i

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love that just moved to a bigger space

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right and

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yeah okay i got no complaints rolling

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right along all right so we went a

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little long on that first segment but

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that's okay so what we're going to do

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is we're going to take a short break um

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and then we'll be right back so this is

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the greens from the garden state podcast

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i'm mike ham we're here with jeff beck

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at eastside mags of montclair new jersey

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we'll be right back

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it is time for today in new jersey

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history on january 17 1876 frank hague

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was born in jersey city new jersey he

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served as the 30th mayor of jersey city

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and had a widely known reputation for

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corruption and bossism and has been

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called the granddaddy of jersey bosses

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at the time of his death which was on

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january 1st 1956 page wealth was

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estimated to have been over 10 million

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dollars although his city salary never

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exceeded 8 500 a year and he had no

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other legitimate source of income and

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that is today in new jersey history

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and we're back this is the greens from

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the garden state podcast i'm mike ham we

18:56

are here at east side mags of montclair

18:58

new jersey with jeff beck so jeff in the

18:59

first segment we did a great background

19:02

of jeff beck very thorough very thorough

19:05

uh from basically birth to now uh so if

19:09

you haven't listened to the first

19:10

segment you should probably go back and

19:11

listen to that and find out where he was

19:12

born all that i'm totally kidding so

19:13

security number

19:15

pin pin number all that no no um but uh

19:18

but so i i do want to talk about it so

19:19

we kind of took you through like your

19:21

your professional background and kind of

19:23

what eastside mags is on a broad scale

19:25

and the business and all that kind of

19:26

stuff but one of the things that i did

19:27

want to ask you um

19:29

is you know some people that take

19:31

something that they're passionate about

19:32

something that they love and marry it

19:34

with a business

19:35

sometimes the the passion kind of wears

19:38

off a little bit is that something that

19:40

you've seen or is this something that

19:41

like

19:42

you're on more on the positive side of

19:44

that

19:44

uh i would definitely say i'm more on

19:46

the positive side of it i still really

19:48

enjoy reading comics uh it does irk me

19:52

uh especially like the last couple weeks

19:54

we're just things have been there's

19:56

there's been a lot of changes in the

19:57

industry marvel jumped from one

19:59

distributor to another that's

20:01

you know a whole

20:03

kettle official on its own and uh dc did

20:06

it earlier i actually did it during like

20:08

while things were shut down and kovid

20:10

was kind of at its height yes he went oh

20:12

we're gonna throw a monkey wrench at

20:13

this whole thing for you it was like oh

20:15

my god i don't even have to deal with

20:17

the cable pandemic and not letting

20:19

customers in my store and now

20:21

i have to like readjust everything but

20:23

at least i will say in hindsight that it

20:25

was good that they did that while it was

20:26

shut down i didn't have to worry about

20:27

dealing with customers

20:29

coming in and out and that at the same

20:31

time sure so right um but i mean

20:35

yeah so like this week's just been it's

20:36

been a little hairy one of my main

20:38

distribut one of my my main distributor

20:40

that i use was the victim of a

20:41

ransomware attack so we couldn't check

20:43

in shipments we couldn't do orders we

20:45

couldn't do a lot of things

20:47

uh because we're kind of relying on

20:48

their hardware

20:50

and so uh that was kind of a pain in the

20:52

butt uh so it's kind of irking me that i

20:54

don't think i read any comics this week

20:57

to like and i try to i try to there's a

20:59

few titles like spider-man and batman

21:01

that i'll read on a regular basis

21:03

because i just those are characters that

21:05

i grew up loving but then i try to just

21:07

read like two or three issues of a lot

21:09

of different titles so i can

21:11

get a sense of what something's about so

21:13

when someone comes in and goes oh what's

21:15

this about like i can actually say yeah

21:17

i didn't really like it or i loved it or

21:19

the art's great but the writing was

21:21

there like give them like a real honest

21:23

opinion about how i felt about it

21:25

exactly and also let them know like

21:27

you're not me so maybe you'll really dig

21:29

this right i didn't think it was that

21:30

great or i love this i hope you like it

21:32

too yeah and if you don't that's okay

21:34

you know yeah um

21:36

but yeah so i

21:37

it hasn't it hasn't taken away any love

21:40

of it it's it's opened me up to exactly

21:44

what goes on behind the scenes how it's

21:46

produced

21:48

how they're created the kind of work and

21:50

effort that goes into it i've met a

21:53

ton of really awesome people

21:55

from artists and writers to publishers

21:57

to ad sales to

21:59

all kind people who editors all kinds of

22:03

different people who

22:04

occupy different positions

22:06

from the top down as far as the creation

22:10

and distribution of this stuff goes um

22:13

i've unfortunately met some shitty

22:14

people

22:15

which everybody does in a lot of

22:17

different ways in different places yeah

22:18

but i guess i guess in terms of like oh

22:21

pulling back the curtain and seeing how

22:23

the sausage is made kind of thing it's

22:25

not terrifying yeah

22:27

it's it's definitely been eye-opening

22:29

and i think it also

22:32

steers me a little bit as far as

22:35

you know people who

22:38

are

22:39

inclusive and who are thoughtful and are

22:43

genuine

22:44

like

22:45

i tend to support their stuff more sure

22:48

than

22:50

the people who tend to be shitty yeah i

22:52

mean if it's good if it's good and at

22:54

the end of the day it's really about

22:56

sales and like what's moving yeah and

22:59

like

23:00

the numbers thing yeah exactly and if

23:02

and if people if something happens and

23:04

people stop buying batman well i'll stop

23:07

stalking batman like it seems like a

23:09

taboo thing and it's like

23:11

heresy like a comic book sword not

23:13

carrying batman but like if if the

23:15

book's that bad and it's not moving why

23:19

exactly why stock it right and the great

23:21

part about the comics industry is that

23:22

you know despite

23:24

popular belief uh

23:26

you know i don't know if it's popular

23:27

belief but like

23:30

a lot of people just kind of go oh it's

23:31

comic book so it's like superman batman

23:33

spiderman all that but there's so

23:35

much more yeah out there than superhero

23:38

stuff so like whatever if i have to stop

23:41

selling batman because it's not selling

23:42

anymore it's not like i'm dead there's

23:45

hundreds literally hundreds and

23:47

thousands of other titles and other

23:49

directions that i can go in which i

23:51

found out very quickly during shutdown

23:52

and covet and all that stuff right um so

23:55

it's not

23:57

mutually one's not mutually exclusive to

23:59

the other yes you know we'll be fine but

24:01

right

24:02

but no i'm still very much a fan i just

24:04

saw eternals yesterday nice uh which is

24:06

the first time in almost two years i've

24:09

seen a movie on opening weekend but

24:10

there's a buddy of mine who wanted to

24:11

take me out my birthday's in a couple

24:13

weeks nice uh i was like kind of an

24:14

early birthday present and it was great

24:16

yeah it wasn't what i expected but you

24:18

know i i really enjoyed the movie yeah

24:20

um

24:22

and so yeah i go see the movies i watch

24:23

the tv shows uh you know if they're on

24:26

demand or whatever like i'm just i'm

24:29

still very much into it yeah no i love

24:31

that so kind of going off of that too

24:33

you know in that answer which i love

24:35

that you know the passion is still there

24:36

for the stuff that you were passionate

24:38

about that's why you started this so it

24:39

would kind of be kind of shitty if it if

24:41

you weren't anymore and you were just

24:43

like this curmudgeon that just like

24:44

hated comic books now but um so talking

24:47

about the last year and a half you know

24:48

by the time this episode posts it's

24:50

gonna be close to two years which is

24:51

almost kind of crazy to think about but

24:53

um when you're

24:55

navigating that time obviously you had a

24:58

move over the course of the last couple

24:59

months

25:00

when this episode's being recorded but

25:02

were there things that maybe you tried

25:04

to implement

25:05

in the business with your customer base

25:07

maybe that if not for the last couple

25:10

years that maybe you would not have you

25:12

would have not have tried like were

25:14

there zoom things were there ways you

25:16

were trying to stay connected with your

25:17

customers even with the doors closed and

25:19

people not allowed in here oh yeah i

25:20

mean uh

25:22

i'm just in general i'm just i

25:25

i don't say die like i won't roll over

25:28

yeah i i've never been that way and i

25:30

probably never will um

25:32

so

25:33

you know

25:34

any obstacle that comes that comes my

25:36

way and and my old boss used to say it

25:38

to me and i say it to my wife all the

25:40

time and i say to my kids even more

25:42

and it's always when something

25:44

goes wrong

25:46

whether you had something personally to

25:48

do with it or not

25:50

the only thing in this world that you

25:52

have full control over is yourself

25:54

and when something doesn't go the way

25:56

you want it to

25:58

it's important to look

26:00

at yourself and see what could you have

26:02

done to avoid the situation what could

26:04

you have

26:05

what did you have control over that you

26:07

could have done to try to get at least

26:09

or at least a different outcome sure and

26:12

so yeah i'm not responsible for kovid uh

26:14

i don't i don't know where it came from

26:16

i don't know how we got it but it's

26:17

here uh it's it's impacted

26:20

everybody and uh you know

26:23

but i have a business that relies on

26:25

people coming in

26:27

purchasing things touching things uh i

26:30

mean if you're not a comic book

26:31

collector like one of the big things

26:33

that comic book collectors do is they

26:34

like to dig through boxes yeah uh long

26:37

boxes short boxes and flip through every

26:40

single issue to find

26:42

maybe a gem or a missing issue that they

26:44

need or just something cool as a gift or

26:47

whatever the reasoning is but it's a lot

26:50

of hands-on it's a lot of touching

26:51

things it's a lot of close quarters if

26:53

you've

26:54

been to a comic convention before kovid

26:56

you've seen people like

26:57

literally shoulder to shoulder digging

26:59

through boxes you know furiously yeah um

27:02

so how do i make this survive

27:05

if i can't even let people in the door

27:07

and so it just turned into

27:09

all right let's just start looking at

27:10

every aspect of the business and figure

27:12

out what we can do one of the things one

27:14

of the very first things that became

27:15

apparent was we do a saturday morning

27:17

drawing class for kids cool i talked to

27:19

the instructor who was a friend of ours

27:23

uh and the fiance or maybe they're

27:25

married no i think they got married they

27:27

might have gotten married during covent

27:28

um

27:30

but she's a she's a friend a really good

27:32

friend of mine

27:33

she teaches the saturday morning drawing

27:35

class we immediately moved that over to

27:37

zoom

27:38

we found that she she her and her

27:40

husband

27:41

figured out a way to connect her ipad

27:44

and get that connected to zoom so that

27:46

the kids could see when they log in like

27:48

what she's drawing and seeing her at the

27:49

same time so that was a pretty easy

27:51

transition um we do sunday dungeons and

27:54

dragons campaigns the dungeon master was

27:58

very good at transitioning all those

28:00

campaigns to zoom uh which we still do

28:03

today yeah the drawing class is on a

28:05

discord server now uh she found that

28:07

that was a a better fit for her okay um

28:10

but yeah but those are still online

28:12

we're talking about maybe bringing the

28:14

drawing classes back in person now that

28:16

kids five and up can get vaccinated so

28:19

um parents might be a little more

28:20

willing to sure let their kids hang out

28:22

in a comic book store for two hours on a

28:24

saturday morning if they've got a

28:25

vaccine right um

28:28

but then it was like okay so that takes

28:29

care of the dungeons and dragons

28:31

takes care of the drawing class

28:33

but like

28:34

that's like revenue that we that it's

28:36

kind of split it's not my revenue so

28:38

like how do i keep myself afloat

28:41

and so

28:43

uh there was a lot of brainstorming i

28:44

mean for all the that people talk

28:46

about facebook nowadays and i mean

28:49

they're not wrong uh it is it is kind of

28:52

terrible uh but they're also very very

28:55

huge positives um

28:57

with facebook yeah and one of those was

28:59

the ability

29:00

after murphy shut down non-essential

29:02

businesses in the state

29:03

uh

29:05

i mean i'm on uh probably about a half

29:07

dozen retailer

29:08

pages it's that's just comic book

29:10

retailers for different reasons and

29:13

motives yeah but uh there were

29:16

new retailer groups that opened up

29:18

called plan c distribution which was one

29:20

of them started by a woman who owns a

29:22

couple comic book stores in the midwest

29:24

and it was not marvel not dc not even

29:28

image or dark horse or idw but like

29:31

independently

29:33

distributed comics like stuff coming out

29:35

of people's basements and attics and

29:37

stuff yeah um who normally wouldn't have

29:40

a venue like hey are you sit on comics

29:43

that you were going to try to sell at

29:44

shows but now there aren't shows because

29:46

of a global pandemic here's a an entire

29:49

group on facebook that's comprised

29:51

primarily of retailers that you can

29:53

pitch your stuff to

29:54

or download an email list and solicit us

29:57

with your independently drawn written

30:00

produced comic book to get us in stores

30:02

because if

30:03

at the same time everything shut down

30:06

diamond who's the main distributor for

30:08

comics wasn't shipping comics

30:11

new stuff yeah so there was no new

30:12

content coming out so was a combination

30:15

of this

30:16

talking to a lot of the independent

30:18

comic book creators that i knew who were

30:19

selling their stuff um

30:22

and then me looking at the shelf and

30:23

going all right well let's try working

30:26

out like

30:27

new for you comic book day right like oh

30:30

you never read uh the dark knight

30:32

returns oh you never read greed lantern

30:35

darkest uh blackest knight oh you never

30:38

read this amazing you know craven's last

30:39

hunt with spider-man like here i've got

30:42

copies and i was doing curbside pickup

30:44

when i probably shouldn't have been but

30:46

i was anyway right we were shipping

30:48

things nobody needs to know that nobody

30:49

listens anyway so

30:51

um uh but i was shipping things to

30:53

people we started doing uh free shipping

30:56

for orders over 50 bucks uh we i was

30:59

doing curbside pickups uh i was spending

31:01

about 20 minutes and fetal position

31:03

crying in the beginning of every day you

31:05

gotta figure it out you gotta fill the

31:06

day somehow what are we gonna see

31:07

tomorrow i don't even know we're gonna

31:09

see the wall but like you know but then

31:12

i get like

31:13

all right back on the horse let's go

31:15

let's go let's figure out a way to sell

31:16

these comics and like it just

31:18

became a thing and i'd look at my

31:20

shelves and i'd go what do i have a lot

31:21

of and

31:23

is there a way that i can pitch this

31:25

book to people

31:27

that is going to make it interesting

31:30

and then that all of that

31:32

plus

31:33

just a really

31:36

awesome community of people who we've

31:38

cultivated who we've grown and

31:40

cultivated with over the last seven

31:42

years i mean we had people like uh this

31:45

guy zach whose wife

31:47

owns uh

31:48

with a toy story that's down the block

31:50

from us now yeah

31:51

he would call me up and he go jeff i got

31:53

75 bucks

31:55

what's good

31:56

make some recommendations yeah but i've

31:58

got 75 to spend with you i had uh one

32:01

customer came in and she gave me

32:03

uh well she didn't come in but she

32:05

called me up and she was like i've got a

32:06

hundred dollars i want to spend on five

32:08

dollar gift certificates for you to give

32:10

out to essential workers very cool so

32:12

like and i you know we rang it up and i

32:14

was so moved by the fact that she wanted

32:16

to do that that i was like you know what

32:19

a pandemic we're gonna match it

32:21

yeah we'll do 200 worth yeah and so uh

32:24

we

32:24

printed out all these gift cards uh if i

32:27

had to go grocery shopping because my

32:29

wife was like oh on the way home you got

32:30

to pick up some stuff i'd be like okay

32:32

and as i'd be walking around i'd be

32:34

handing out gift cards because i knew

32:35

those grocery store employees were

32:37

working the whole time yeah right um

32:41

the male lady who came by uh anybody i

32:43

saw him

32:44

in scrubs on the street

32:46

just handed them out like candy yeah um

32:49

little kids

32:50

yeah just you know but it was stuff like

32:52

that that kept us afloat um and helped

32:55

us pivot a little bit into

32:58

adjusting to the times until such a time

33:00

that we could get back to business as

33:02

usual of course and uh and even now i

33:05

mean we

33:06

doesn't look like it now but we do

33:08

require masks um

33:10

in the store uh

33:12

not at this moment right now but well

33:14

generally speaking yeah uh please wear a

33:16

mask if you come by right um yeah and

33:19

they even if you don't have one they

33:20

gave me one when i walked in yeah

33:22

i now that there's not like this massive

33:26

worldwide shortage of right surgical

33:28

masks yeah you know we we pick we pick

33:30

up uh

33:31

some giant bags of them and and have

33:34

them available because sometimes people

33:35

forget and sometimes people come in and

33:36

they're just like no i'm not wearing a

33:38

mask and it's like

33:39

alright see you later have a great day

33:42

thanks for stopping in what am i going

33:44

to do

33:45

and i'm not going to stand here and i'm

33:46

not going to argue about

33:48

covet

33:49

and

33:50

oh kids can't catch it or you know

33:53

any of this other like rhetoric

33:55

like you know we we've been following

33:57

cdc guidelines

33:59

science is is where my head is at and

34:01

what i'm focused on and all the

34:03

political like is means nothing to

34:06

me yeah um you know just and i got two

34:08

kids at home i got a four and a half

34:10

year old and a one and a half year old

34:12

that neither of them are old enough for

34:14

a vaccine and i'm trying

34:16

not to

34:17

get them covered again i mean we are my

34:20

family already had it right last march

34:22

yeah

34:23

my four-year-old was in a preschool that

34:25

my wife worked at and his teacher was

34:28

like a young girl who went out and

34:31

didn't take it seriously and caught it

34:33

and brought it into the school and my

34:35

wife caught it my son caught it i then

34:38

had it the my one-year-old baby caught

34:40

it like that's how i found out that i

34:42

had it right because i had to get the

34:43

baby tested because the baby was hot and

34:45

i was like your skin should not be yeah

34:47

right i don't know a lot about babies

34:49

but if they're high i don't think that's

34:50

good no no definitely not yeah and so

34:51

like you know we got i got him tested

34:53

and i got tested because i'm the

34:54

caregiver and sure uh we let my wife

34:57

come out of quarantine because i was

34:58

like well i don't have to slide

35:00

americraft singles to you under the door

35:01

anymore uh for sustenance uh you're

35:04

allowed to come out now because we've

35:06

all got coveted so let's just

35:08

right be together and quarantine the

35:10

house together yeah you can help change

35:11

some of these diapers because it's a lot

35:13

that's a lot of sounds like a lot it's a

35:14

lot of poo yeah so yeah i mean you know

35:17

but i'm not trying to do that again so

35:19

wear a mask if you come in here just put

35:21

on a mask it's not a big deal

35:23

you know you could do it for 30 minutes

35:25

yeah while you leave through throw it in

35:27

the dumpster when you leave i don't care

35:29

yeah

35:31

i'm here my house my rules right so well

35:34

one of the things that i liked about

35:35

that it was gonna wind up being a

35:36

perfect segue into our third segment so

35:38

we're gonna take our second break and

35:39

our last break up this episode now um is

35:41

the community side so we know that we're

35:42

to get into the community uh part at the

35:45

end here um that's what everybody

35:46

listens to the show and knows what we do

35:48

so uh we're taking our second break uh

35:50

this is the greetings from the garden

35:51

state podcast i'm mike ham we're here at

35:53

east side mags in montclair new jersey

35:55

with jeff beck we'll be right back

35:59

it is time for new jersey fun fact of

36:00

the day did you know that new jersey has

36:02

a state seashell it's the knobbed welk

36:04

and is known to be used in the italian

36:05

dish scungili and that is your new

36:08

jersey fun fact of the day

36:13

all right we're back this is the

36:14

greetings from the garden state podcast

36:15

i'm mike ham we are here at east side

36:17

mags in montclair new jersey with jeff

36:18

beck

36:19

so

36:20

jeff in the first part of this uh

36:22

interview we talked a lot about your

36:23

background we talked about the

36:24

background of the business we talked

36:26

about you know um

36:28

a lot of other things we kind of talked

36:29

about marrying the passion with the

36:30

business side of it and kind of how that

36:32

works um and then we were talking about

36:34

in the last segment and we're gonna

36:35

really hammer it in this segment um is

36:38

the community side of it so as someone

36:40

that doesn't necessarily like read a lot

36:42

of comics or do a lot of these things

36:43

but i have friends that do and i know

36:46

that a lot of those communities are like

36:48

you know

36:49

diehards like if you're into this thing

36:50

it seems like you're very into it um so

36:53

talk to me a little bit about like you

36:55

talked about how strong the community

36:56

that you've cultivated here for seven

36:58

and a half years and talk to me about

37:00

just how important that is to your

37:02

business i mean obviously the dollars

37:04

and cents thing but even beyond that i

37:06

mean the best example of community

37:09

as far as us as far as we go as a shop

37:12

was

37:14

displayed

37:15

about a month and a half ago when we

37:18

decided to move

37:19

i had been

37:20

kind of letting people know that we

37:22

would be

37:23

my the way my lease was laid out was my

37:25

first month's rent had to be paid

37:26

november 1st so like throughout the

37:29

whole summer we were letting people know

37:31

like by november 1st buy november 1st

37:33

buy november 1st

37:35

we finally picked a move-in day

37:37

uh it was september 26th which was a

37:39

sunday uh normally we're open the only

37:42

day we're close is on monday but i said

37:43

you know what we're going to close that

37:44

sunday we're going to

37:47

basically just put everything in our 968

37:50

square foot store in boxes

37:53

and we're gonna move it over to the new

37:54

space and the new space is like a 30

37:56

second walk from the old space so

37:58

no moving truck no movers

38:01

nothing just hand trucks and bodies just

38:04

people who are willing to help us

38:06

and i was like if it takes all day it

38:08

takes all day but we're going to give up

38:09

a day of revenue the next day we're

38:11

closed anyway so there's no revenue to

38:13

be had that day and the idea is to just

38:16

get

38:17

at least

38:18

four specifically targeted areas of the

38:21

shop up and set up

38:24

in order for me to unlock that door

38:25

tuesday morning

38:27

and be okay yeah and then we could

38:28

slowly start to put toys away and stuff

38:31

like that but it had to be the new

38:33

comics the kids section the register and

38:36

the subscription boxes or pull boxes as

38:38

people tend to call them

38:40

and if i can get those four things set

38:42

up and good between sunday and monday

38:45

everything else the drinks the dvds the

38:49

statues all that stuff can be

38:51

dug out of a box to sell to somebody if

38:53

they know that we have it or it can be

38:55

set up at a later date

38:58

started letting people know all right we

39:00

picked september 26th to be moving day

39:03

people started going oh if you need help

39:04

let me know if you need help let me know

39:06

so i started making a list and i started

39:07

writing people's names down and getting

39:09

their contact info

39:10

sent out

39:11

an email

39:12

mass email to everybody who who gave me

39:15

their name

39:16

a couple of facebook messages to certain

39:18

people

39:19

and was just like all right this is

39:21

gonna be it uh the day before was uh

39:23

jazz fest here in montclair okay so we

39:25

had a small table set up for jazz fest

39:27

because i got talked into it and why i

39:29

decided to do it the day before moving i

39:30

would never understand but uh i have a

39:33

button machine we make our own buttons

39:35

out of damaged comics okay cool uh so i

39:37

just sat there making buttons all day

39:39

like it was easy set up easy clean up

39:42

and i gave away free stuff because i was

39:44

like the less we have to move the better

39:45

yeah

39:46

and

39:47

that night i went over with uh one of my

39:50

best friends who does comic conventions

39:52

with me his name is mike

39:54

and we stood in the empty store at 10

39:56

o'clock at night and i told him about

39:57

the four areas and how i wanted to do

40:00

things and we were good he was on the

40:02

same page and then

40:04

my two employees chris and ariel who are

40:06

like

40:07

the greatest employees i could have ever

40:09

asked for

40:10

chris has been with us practically since

40:12

day one i think he came on our second

40:14

year

40:15

of

40:16

of business and has been with us ever

40:18

since arielle like fourth year yeah uh

40:20

it has been with us ever since

40:23

and they're just amazing dudes and i

40:25

said to chris i was like listen you're

40:26

gonna be in the old spot you're gonna be

40:28

responsible for boxing stuff up

40:30

ariel's gonna kind of be back and forth

40:32

but he has a another job that he does in

40:34

the morning i'll be at the new spot

40:36

receiving things yeah and

40:39

we're just gonna kind of go from there

40:42

sunday morning came

40:43

i told everybody listen we're gonna

40:45

start we're gonna be there as early as 7

40:46

00 a.m so whatever time you can get

40:48

there whatever you can do to help out

40:50

great

40:51

seven a.m there was at least

40:54

ten people

40:55

who showed up at seven in the morning on

40:57

a sunday

40:59

hand trucks

41:00

dollies

41:01

plastic wrap to wrap

41:03

prices and i was like totally moved by

41:06

it by the time

41:09

we actually started moving things over

41:11

there was at least 20 people

41:13

moving things back and forth i mean it

41:15

was a non-stop caravan back and forth

41:17

across the intersection

41:19

of hand trucks moving things over a lot

41:21

of my stuff's already on wheels because

41:23

my idea for the shop was to be able to

41:25

move stuff around to make room for

41:26

different events right um

41:28

but like the absolute

41:30

show of support from

41:32

20 people who didn't expect to get paid

41:35

and didn't expect to get anything out of

41:37

it other than to help us move things

41:39

over yeah um just showed me that we've

41:42

made such a difference

41:45

in

41:45

certain people's lives or just

41:48

in the way that they experience this

41:51

industry and comic books and you know

41:53

we've just we've touched so many people

41:54

that they

41:56

they were really willing to come out

41:57

here seven in the morning on a sunday

41:59

night move stuff forever yeah um

42:02

which is awesome no it's that's

42:04

amazing it's huge and then

42:06

you know go back a little further the

42:08

whole thing during covid with people

42:09

donating money to us giving us money for

42:12

gift cards

42:13

to kind of give us that help us with

42:14

cash flow um

42:16

that also gave us gift cards that we

42:18

could give out to hopefully new

42:20

customers you know and bring in more

42:21

revenue and all that good stuff you know

42:24

and then even before that you know we

42:26

spent seven years in our old location

42:29

um doing free punk shows uh you know we

42:32

never charged admission for that stuff i

42:35

started off the shop doing movie nights

42:38

where i would uh

42:39

i would buy like guardians of the galaxy

42:41

on on

42:43

a streaming platform

42:44

and then i would rent a projector a

42:46

screen and a sound system and set it up

42:49

in the shop and move everything to all

42:50

the products at the sides and set up

42:52

chairs and like a theater type

42:53

atmosphere

42:54

and we would do a showing of guardians

42:56

of the galaxy and the circumvent any

42:59

rights or money we would have to pay

43:01

instead of charging admission we would

43:02

collect canned food

43:04

that we would donate to a local food

43:06

pantry awesome so that if disney was

43:08

like you owe us money for showing

43:09

guardians of the galaxy i'd go okay i

43:10

can pay you in beans how many cans of

43:12

beans there's a couple cans of campbell

43:14

soup yeah right yeah complete with uh

43:16

with a

43:17

with a press kit about how disney would

43:19

rather

43:20

take food out of the mouths of the needy

43:23

to compensate for me sharing one of

43:25

their movies right you know never

43:27

happened but yeah you know but that was

43:29

the idea was to be community supportive

43:32

and also at the same time

43:34

they disney can't ask me for

43:37

some time it was twofold yeah but i mean

43:39

we've collected

43:41

clothes and money for like uh

43:45

sexual assault victims and and victims

43:47

of rape in essex county

43:49

uh food pantries um we host local

43:53

artists um

43:55

so we hang up artwork and we help sell

43:57

their artwork on consignment uh where

44:00

the the the it's it's always more in

44:03

favor of the artist than it is for us

44:04

because my feeling is that i didn't pay

44:07

for anybody to go to art school but

44:09

there is a little bit of a rental

44:10

associated with the shelf space that i

44:12

could put something else on right so but

44:14

it usually comes out to like a 70 30

44:16

split or a 60 40 split in favor of the

44:18

artist because i want their costs to be

44:19

covered and i want their profit to be

44:21

real profit right and not oh i sold this

44:24

thing for five i got five bucks for it

44:26

but it cost me four bucks to make so i

44:28

really only made a dollar like no if it

44:30

cost you four bucks then we give you the

44:31

four bucks whatever is left that we

44:34

split fifty yeah um

44:36

and we've

44:37

we've met some amazing people through

44:39

that too independently produce comic

44:41

books and distributed comic books we

44:43

said we have a whole we used to bake

44:45

them into

44:46

the everything so like you could have

44:48

batman here and right next to it could

44:50

be a comic that a guy draws in his

44:53

apartment you know right next to batman

44:55

on the wall uh but you know we've had

44:57

some conversations about it uh amongst

44:59

me and my my my team and so now we we're

45:02

trying out the indie comics table we set

45:04

up a table where it's just indie comics

45:06

and people can take a look and you know

45:08

that seems to be working out really well

45:09

too so i've got no complaints there no

45:11

it's awesome um but you know we try to

45:14

we just we're inclusive

45:17

we like diversity we like different

45:19

things uh

45:21

all of us have different tastes who work

45:23

here yeah we don't always see eye to eye

45:25

on the same thing

45:27

which is great i mean it doesn't get

45:29

volatile it doesn't get angry it's just

45:31

you know it gets a little heated

45:32

sometimes but that's okay passion

45:35

passion and

45:36

you know we argue about stuff sometimes

45:39

and sometimes we're all like nope that

45:41

season of titans was the best

45:43

season in the world or nope this last

45:46

season of titans was trash and

45:49

they ruined the red hood storyline

45:51

and

45:52

super disappointed yeah but like

45:54

you know but whatever it is like

45:57

we're amicable about it it's cool and we

45:59

just move on yeah and it's just we love

46:01

this stuff right and i tell people all

46:03

the time that the comic book industry is

46:05

full of some of the greatest people you

46:06

will ever meet and some of the most

46:08

toxic who ever walked this

46:10

earth

46:11

because

46:12

some people just they just don't know

46:14

how to let things go and yeah they don't

46:17

know how to like just

46:19

let things change with the times yeah

46:21

but i guess that could be said for just

46:22

about anything yeah nowadays sure so

46:24

exactly so one of the last question i

46:26

have about that is just you know because

46:28

in the last segment also we talked about

46:29

the you know doing the classes for the

46:30

kids the drawing classes for the kids

46:32

doing the dungeons and dragons uh stuff

46:34

on sundays um are there like other

46:36

things that you do to try to like bring

46:38

people in and you know like give them a

46:40

space to do those types of things or is

46:41

that more just kind of like two specific

46:43

examples part of the part of the idea

46:45

for part of the reason why we moved to

46:47

this new space here was because i read a

46:49

lot of articles about how people

46:51

are shopping now that cove is a part of

46:54

our lives and how

46:56

shopping

46:57

uh

46:58

shopping habits will adjust moving

47:00

forward that things are never going to

47:02

really go back to the way they work

47:04

so we have

47:06

you can't really see it in here but this

47:08

huge aluminum tube that runs down that

47:11

gives us like an industrial feel but is

47:13

the air conditioning so invisible air

47:15

conditioning makes people feel like

47:17

there's air flow it's a it's a bigger

47:19

space than about two and a half times

47:21

bigger than where we were so instead of

47:23

stacking things this way i'm stacking

47:25

things this way sure so there's more

47:26

room to move around it also allowed us

47:29

to open up this space in the back where

47:30

we are now that's going to be

47:33

once people once we feel more

47:35

comfortable gathering together our

47:37

gaming space yeah so the dungeons and

47:38

dragons will be in person and they'll be

47:40

in their own space whereas previously

47:42

they were kind of in the middle of the

47:43

store and if someone came in who wasn't

47:46

interested in dungeon dragons they were

47:47

stepping over backpacks and you know it

47:50

felt just very tight and crammed in

47:52

there yeah and now we don't have any of

47:54

that stuff

47:55

so

47:56

besides forgetting the question that you

47:58

just asked me just so you know like if

47:59

you do any other types of things like

48:01

that and i think that that would kind of

48:03

play into maybe some future plans right

48:04

you know just doing some different

48:05

things with the space that you can do

48:07

that you couldn't do prior right yeah

48:09

right now we're kind of i'm in this

48:11

limbo where i don't really know

48:13

what i'm gonna do but the good part is

48:15

that it's november

48:17

and holiday season is upon us and that's

48:19

if anybody works retail they know that

48:21

this is like the do or die time this is

48:23

the time yeah you know

48:25

so

48:26

i'm kind of not as concerned about it

48:28

right now because i'm like okay i'm in

48:29

this new space and it's bigger and

48:31

there's still only three of us plus our

48:33

intern kirk who comes in whenever he

48:36

feels like it which is fine because he's

48:38

the intern so that's kind of his role

48:40

but you know um

48:42

he's great support when he's here but

48:44

when he's not here it's still just three

48:45

of us at any given point in time so like

48:48

managing the new space making sure that

48:50

we're comfortable and that we have what

48:51

we need where we need it

48:53

and then

48:54

not

48:55

kind of back to not knowing what to

48:57

expect from this holiday season not just

48:59

in terms of covid and shopping and stuff

49:01

like that but just

49:03

is our foot traffic going to be bigger

49:05

now is it going to be less is it going

49:07

to be different like what's going on and

49:11

so just having so many unknown variables

49:13

right now i'm not really in a rush to

49:15

worry about that kind of stuff but

49:16

future wise we'd love to get our guns

49:19

and dragons back on back to in person

49:21

when our dungeon master gets his kids

49:23

vaccinated he's willing to do that

49:25

drawing class is coming back to being in

49:27

person

49:29

probably in january of next year we'll

49:31

start

49:32

renting out the table space back here

49:33

because one thing that i also learned

49:35

from kovid was that a lot of people were

49:37

utilizing zoom and other like facebook

49:41

live to do online dnd campaigns well

49:44

people may not want to just be done with

49:46

that they may want to keep playing but

49:49

you may have been playing dungeons and

49:50

dragons with five randos who you've

49:52

never met and don't want in your

49:53

house so here there's a comic book store

49:56

yeah right totally public place where

49:58

people are coming in and out and there's

50:00

employees and we're inclusive and we're

50:01

fun and you can bring your randos here

50:05

and if you don't feel comfortable you

50:07

can tell us and we'll

50:09

make it stop or call somebody or do what

50:12

we can yeah do you think you don't have

50:14

to go oh i guess this is the end of our

50:16

campaign because i don't know

50:18

your people and you're not going to sit

50:19

in my kitchen yeah no you let them come

50:22

here yeah um you know so that stuff can

50:24

continue very cool um

50:26

i mean we've got a couple other ideas

50:28

maybe different events maybe we can go

50:29

back to live music and yeah doing punk

50:32

shows again um

50:33

you know a lot of that stuff what

50:35

someone said to me the other day like

50:36

what what what's old is new again and i

50:39

was like what are you a hallmark

50:41

shut up don't say those things yeah

50:44

gross yeah but i mean

50:46

he was wrong like

50:48

you know what we've been doing we can

50:50

probably at some point go back to doing

50:52

it and hopefully we

50:54

are are we still trying to flatten our

50:55

curve i don't even know what it is

50:57

anymore

50:58

some places you wear masks on places you

51:00

don't i just stick one in my pocket and

51:01

you know if i need it cool if i don't

51:03

need it i'd probably wear it anyway

51:04

because my kids aren't vast yet yeah uh

51:07

yet but um

51:10

yeah awesome all right well so what

51:12

we're going to do now if people have

51:13

listened to this episode and i cannot

51:15

imagine if they've listened to this

51:17

episode and they don't want to learn

51:18

more or come check you guys out

51:20

all that kind of stuff so what are some

51:22

places that they can go maybe there's a

51:23

website maybe there's some social

51:25

handles all that kind of stuff where can

51:26

they go to learn more eastsidemags.com

51:30

uh eastside mags on instagram facebook

51:33

and twitter my wife is telling me that i

51:35

should have a tick tock but i don't

51:36

think i have time for that

51:37

um

51:39

let's say we're on tumblr if people

51:41

still use tumblr okay uh you can find me

51:44

on linkedin if you're on linkedin right

51:46

and then you'll probably just silence

51:47

those notifications anyway yeah you're

51:49

just gonna catfish me anyway which is

51:51

fine

51:52

it's fine yeah i don't send anybody

51:54

money anyway so it's

51:56

not anymore it's not a thing yeah um and

51:58

then what's the new address here so

52:01

people know 491 bloomfield ave we're in

52:04

suite 102 which is on the ground floor

52:07

and totally wheelchair accessible if if

52:09

you have it um but yeah we are uh

52:13

we're visible from the main ave we're on

52:14

the main street with the big boys yeah

52:16

and big girls we're we're one of the big

52:18

kids right exactly played on the big kid

52:20

playground oh yeah bloomfield ave that's

52:22

that's about as big as it gets around

52:23

here

52:24

major county road yeah and uh yeah

52:28

yeah we're here awesome selling comics

52:30

and

52:31

fun stuff we just uh we just had mugs

52:34

printed because a lot of people on the

52:35

community pages were have been

52:37

complaining about parking in town uh and

52:40

i mean it's been a problem there's like

52:41

i think the broken parking meters are up

52:43

to 11 percent town wide i'm not a big

52:46

fan of parking around montclair love new

52:47

jersey love montclair not a big fan of

52:49

parking around here it's not it's not a

52:51

great thing but we have uh we now have

52:53

we're calling them eastside mugs uh it

52:56

says eastside mags on one side and on

52:58

the other side it says proof i found

53:00

parking in montclair

53:01

so we're going to be giving you one

53:03

before you leave oh amazing thank you

53:04

you found parking i did yeah i'm going

53:06

to carry my box all the way here but it

53:07

was all good

53:08

so yeah i'll put the mug in there we're

53:10

going to give you one uh as a party gift

53:12

i love that

53:14

yeah and uh yeah i mean people on the

53:15

community page just think it's hilarious

53:17

yeah i just hope they think it's funny

53:18

enough that they come in and buy one buy

53:20

these mugs that i just had printed up

53:22

yeah yeah but we've got t-shirts with

53:25

very clear punk rock influences yeah

53:28

actually our tea public store has one

53:30

that i i manipulated the uh notorious

53:33

b.i.g ready to die okay uh this is ready

53:36

for comics and it's like funko hulk with

53:38

the crooked crown on his hand yeah yeah

53:40

it's cool i gotta i gotta buy one for

53:42

myself uh because now that i'm not

53:44

getting them printed on my own right uh

53:46

i have to buy your own

53:48

merchandise so that i can get my own cut

53:50

later yeah yeah yeah who knows but yeah

53:53

awesome awesome well jeff thank you so

53:55

much for having me here today this was

53:57

amazing for having me man this is great

53:59

you have a great podcast thank you i

54:00

appreciate that i'm i'm really happy

54:02

that i got to be a part of it yeah me

54:03

too this was a lot of fun uh definitely

54:06

i wouldn't say better than the goats

54:07

just a lot different than the goats that

54:09

we had on the other day so

54:11

beating goats is not uh it's not easy to

54:12

do no but you did your best you gave

54:14

them you gave a

54:16

valiant effort for sure um so again this

54:19

is the greeting state from the greetings

54:20

from the garden state podcast on my cam

54:22

we're here at eastside mags today in

54:24

montclair new jersey with jeff beck

54:27

thank you so much jeff beck the goat uh

54:30

thank you for listening and we'll catch

54:31

you next week

54:40

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54:41

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54:53

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